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What I would really like to talk about is RAFFLES, but apparently Christmas isn't really over (N.B. I AM QUITE READY FOR IT TO BE OVER) and I am putting off Raffles yet again, have been meaning to talk about Raffles since, erm, quite a while ago. Before Christmas at any rate. (I've got the Graham Greene play, The Return of AJ Raffles, in my sticky little hands, and have had enough time to get to about page three, where Bosie (YES THAT ONE) tells Bunny he doesn't fancy him any more because prison's made Bunny thin? How did this get written, how is this a real item that libraries actually possess. Also: [livejournal.com profile] sherlockmas  assignment! almost done - almost

I've signed up to [livejournal.com profile] thegameison_sh  - there's a challenge each month, plus bonus assignments, you're put on a team, you try and get points - the commitment isn't massive, the maximum fic size is 750 words, the monthly challenges are the only compulsory ones.

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MAYBE YOU WILL BE ON MY TEAM. Is that an enticement? not necessarily. Speaking of fic challenge communities, I'm wondering if there's a Holmes flashfic comm. This may be one of those occasions where simply wishing something exists has not in fact made it happen, alas. Am seriously thinking that if there isn't one then there should be. a MULTIHOLMES ONE to allow for the fact that I am having strong urges to write for the Bruce/Rathbone incarnation (they fight nazis! they gaze fondly at each other! they go to CANADA, O Canada!) and maybe idk there are people who want to write for Peter Cushing as Holmes, or TPLOSH.

edited to add an actual link to the signups, also I would like to say this: THE MORE CHALLENGES THE BETTER YAY, that is how I feel right now.

Date: 2010-12-29 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pollums.livejournal.com
Bosie

WHAT?!

Date: 2010-12-29 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bbakerb.livejournal.com
OK SO Graham Greene who wrote Brighton Rock, The Third Man etc etc, for some reason decided in the 1970s to write a play about Raffles? And to make it PRETTY EXPLICIT that Raffles and Bunny are GAY GAY GAY. Supposedly it is a comedy but I haven't got far enough to tell, it is the opening scene, Bunny has just got out of prison (whether for theft or homosexuality idk yet), it is 1900. Bosie - described here as having 'DEPRAVED ARISTOCRATIC FEATURES' (hello, think I, this is my kind of story!) is pacing about the room while Bunny is next door changing so they can go to the opera. Bunny is SAD because Raffles is somewhere else.

Bosie says (BEAR IN MIND THAT HORNUNG DID NOT WRITE THIS): "Let me in Bunny. Why lock the door? You needn't be afraid of your precious virtue. I like a bit of flesh and prison benches make for hard bottoms."

HELLO WHAT. In a funny way Greene might have been trying to rescue the Raffles mythos? Some other guy, Barry Perowne, wrote a whole series of Raffles books after Hornung's death, which are apparently much more conventional, and presumably much more hetero, maybe Greene was trying to Bring Raffles Back To Its Roots.

Date: 2010-12-30 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pollums.livejournal.com
AUGH that sounds fucking amazing. Do tell me if it's any good in the end. I'd be very interested if it is.... I'm still slowly workin my way through the Raffles stories. They're really good to read when I just need a pick me up and there's no good fic at hand. Raffles and Wodehouse are my two "pick me up"s at the mo'

Also I finally watched TPLOSH all the way through- what a depressing movie! JAISUS!

Date: 2010-12-30 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bbakerb.livejournal.com
ok so Bosie has just asked Bunny if Raffles ever went for women at ALL, and Bunny's like 'er no, never'

ACK

I am dying a bit

will try not to give a running commentary for the entire thing, will SAVE IT THE FUCK UP

also: TPLOSH! SO MELANCHOLY, so good though - SO MUCH MYCROFT, also so much implied *SECRET EMOTION*

Date: 2010-12-30 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pollums.livejournal.com
Haha but I am excited for the commentary! Ohhh Bosie, such sass. Is there some sort of plot so far or is this becoming Bosie and Bunny's sexcellent adventure?

Date: 2010-12-31 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bbakerb.livejournal.com
WELL OK YOU HAVE ASKED FOR IT

tbh I will probably finish it pretty quickly now I have some time. The plot appears to be: Bosie wants Bunny to burgle the Marquess of Queensberry's house. (also: spoiler in the title, RAFFLES RETURNS)

(also also: I don't want to spoil you for the actual stories! I can't tell you the basic premise of the play without spoiling the overall arc/story, it's set after the end of The Black Mask)

Date: 2010-12-31 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pollums.livejournal.com
NUHHH!! Motivation for me to read faster then. All right! I shall read through a few stories tonight!

Date: 2010-12-31 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bbakerb.livejournal.com
ok so

I don't want you to rush through Raffles unnecessarily fast, so when I finish reading the play I'll do a lj post that's not spoilery for the original stories, I know there are other people also reading who might not have read them all

and THEN

I will also do a post that is spoilery for EVERYTHING, for people who've read the stories and also for people who don't care about being spoiled - it's the equivelant of being spoiled for Reichenbach in Holmes, you know? - but because Raffles isn't as well known people are much less likely to know what the basic story is.

Date: 2010-12-29 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cicak.livejournal.com
I've had that play on my TO INHALE list for ages, now I must, MUST get my hands on it. Why didn't I buy it with my christmas money?!

That comm seems awesome, I respond best to deadlines that say DO THIS NOW OR ELSE.

Date: 2010-12-29 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bbakerb.livejournal.com
Libraries are your friends! (Abebooks is your friend also, but a library was my friend in this case.) It's kind of brilliant that Greene just says 'ok well OBVIOUSLY they're all gay'. IDK where exactly he's going with it obvs.

The thing about fandom/the internet is that there isn't really someone to say OR ELSE, actually no one to say DO THIS, I suppose that the team thing the comm has is the equivalent. TEAM SPIRIT! \o/! for FANDOM! and GREAT LOLS!

have realised that maybe a link to the actual signup post might be handy *EDIT EDIT EDIT*

Date: 2010-12-29 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cicak.livejournal.com
I've checked, they don't have it at my library. But then again, they don't have much in my library since they did it up to make it modern! Shiny! Bookless! Therefore abebooks will be my friend this time.

I completed my Yuletide purely because it was 'IF YOU DON'T POST YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO DO IT AGAIN' which kicked me enough to spend 10 hours in the library whipping my fic into some kind of shape the week before the deadline.

TEAM SPIRIT will hopefully work in the same manner. If there is competitiveness at stake, I will succeed at completing!

Date: 2010-12-30 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bbakerb.livejournal.com
Yuletide! Yuletide! I was sort of the same - the idea of never being able to participate in the future is a BIG motivator, because it's such a great thing to have going on in fandom - I got a bit stuck because I was really trying not to write porn (FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE) -

TEAM SPIRIT! I do think that having a built-in co-reader/writership is also a big motivator, you're not sending your fic-babies out into the void totally alone, everyone else is doing it too. (this is basically what fandom is all about, but in challenge comms & exchanges it's even more so)

also: you get points in thegameison_sh! POINTS, I tell you.

Date: 2010-12-30 09:46 am (UTC)
ext_9241: Lost in Translation (*not user friendly*)
From: [identity profile] poetic-self.livejournal.com
I had a look at [livejournal.com profile] thegameison_sh, trying to figure out how it worked. Not sure I did, in the end (LOL), but OMG THE OBLIGATION. I don't think I can DO THIS. MEEP.

Date: 2010-12-30 09:47 am (UTC)
ext_9241: Lost in Translation (*coffee.exe*)
From: [identity profile] poetic-self.livejournal.com
PS/ Also, I have to admit I've no idea bout Raffles. But Bosie?? THAT Bosie? UH?

Date: 2010-12-30 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bbakerb.livejournal.com
OK SO: re: thegameison_sh - you sign up, you're randomly assigned to a team, and then you write a little fic for a challenge each month, the mod posts them anonymised, everyone votes for their favourite. You get points for participating - given as nicotine patches! - and more points if your thing gets lots of votes. There are bonus challenges/discussions each week for TEAM! SPIRIT! \o/ for which there are also I think points going

here is the FAQ page which will probs explain better than I can: http://landlady-hudson.livejournal.com/860.html

and RAFFLES! Raffles is/are an 1890s series of stories written by Arthur Conan Doyle's brother-in-law, E.W. Hornung, about a gentleman thief/cricketer, A.J. Raffles, & his sidekick, Harry 'Bunny' Manders. And Graham Greene - author of The End Of The Affair, Brighton Rock, The Third Man etc, wrote (why? idk) a play about Raffles in the 1970s, The Return Of A.J. Raffles, in which Bunny's just got out of Reading Gaol, and is hanging out with Bosie?? HOW DOES THIS EXIST, I do not know.

I talked a bit about Raffles here: http://bbakerb.livejournal.com/65557.html

the stories are all out of copyright, so they're on the internet

Date: 2010-12-30 05:26 pm (UTC)
ext_9241: Lost in Translation (Etown: This Way)
From: [identity profile] poetic-self.livejournal.com
I NOW FEEL PROPERLY EDUCATED ;D thanks for taking the time ;)

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